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on in the u.k. so so far, and i've basebaeen following the swiss press, there's no major calls for mr. monti to step down. of course, they weren't necessarily with the bank when all this manipulation happened. someone's going to take responsibility, right? >> yeah. i think this would be really harsh on the -- on the top management. the top management is only in charge since 2011. so clearly after the libor manipulation is over and -- i think we'll see something like 35 traders being charged for this, and i think this is probably what will happen. the management of the investment bank has changed several times since then. and i don't think anything would be necessary right now with the new management. >> dirk, you mentioned, too, broader concern. what happened at barclays spurred basically a restructuring. ubs we're seeing that restructuring take place. what are the prospects for this company going into 2013? >> well, ubs by its own admission expects mid single digit roes for 2013 and 2014. so this is one of the lowest roes in the banking sectorment at t -- sector. they're trading at multiple
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